Michelle Lynne 0:02
Welcome to design for the creative mind, a podcast for interior designers and creative entrepreneurs to run their business with purpose, efficiency and passion. Because, well, every design is different, the process should remain the same. Prepare yourself for some good conversations with amazing guests, a dash of Jesus and a touch of the woowoo. And probably a swear word or two. If you're ready to stop trading your time for money, and enjoy your interior design business, you are in the right place. I'm your host, Michelle Lynn.
Hello, everybody. Welcome back to the podcast. I am so excited that you're here today because I want to introduce you to ginger Curtis, you might recognize her name. And if you don't recognize the name that I'm sure you recognize her style. She is the owner and principal designer of urban ology designs. She is based out of the Fort Worth Dallas Fort Worth area, but she is across the country with her clients. And she has also recently released a gorgeous book, it's called Beauty by design. And if you haven't purchased it, run over to Amazon and get it because that's what we're going to talk about today. And it's well worth every single penny, and more. So welcome, ginger.
Ginger Curtis 1:23
Thank you. I'm excited to be here.
Michelle Lynne 1:26
I'm so glad you're here. And I know our listeners are gonna be super stoked to. So let's let's just start off with your book. What is beauty by design? What is the concept behind it? Yeah,
Ginger Curtis 1:36
so it's actually very unlikely sort of designed coffee table book, it definitely is that it's a field guide. It's got gorgeous inspiration, it shares projects, and how tos and resources. But what makes it unique as it also shares my story, a little bit of, you know, how I got started. And some of the trials, it's really easy to look at a brand or an entrepreneur or girl. And just, you know, think, oh, gosh, wow, she's got it all together and all figured out. But you don't always see the hard fought battles behind that story. And so Beauty By Design definitely takes a unique approach because it shares some of those heartfelt battles and victories and overcoming that challenge is just kind of the roller coaster of life and especially in the design world.
Michelle Lynne 2:20
I love that because you did you open to a very first chapter, and I have it right here. So you guys hear me flipping through pages. I bought this on pre order when I saw on Instagram, but your introduction is a new beauty emerges. And then you also talk about your worthy of beauty. And I just thought that that was such a kick ass way to start off, because as women as business people, as moms as sisters, friends, wives, everything, sometimes that's such a struggle is the worthiness. Or, and you you acknowledge that and then this book also gives them the ability to not just recognize their worthiness, but the capability with all of the nuggets of information you give in here, like everything from, you know, the different types of tile to how to calculate what sort of light you need in a room. That was just such an inspiration. And the book itself is not just a pretty coffee table book. No, it's
Ginger Curtis 3:20
it's so much deeper than that, which Yeah, and if the surprise behind it, and, and it just, you know, just gives you this frame of reference that I think is a little bit unique and, and just that voice you said it a minute ago, but but that we are worthy of beauty. In fact, like we need it, we require it and it's not something that we're always completely in tune with. And it's so essential to charge our batteries, it's so essential to be inspired. And, you know, we forget that sometimes we need to lean in that really intentionally give ourselves permission to be very intentional about our environments for ourselves and for our families. Yeah,
Michelle Lynne 3:57
and as designers, that's what we do for our clients. But we take so much of it for granted because it's something that comes naturally. And that's one of the things that I that I teach or mentor a lot of people is that you're not just creating a beautiful room, you're creating a space for people to begin and end their day, where they wake up and they felt they feel nurtured. They come home and they feel protected. And it's more than just a pretty space and you said it here it's by design. And it changes it changes your insides, not just your outer living areas. Oh
Ginger Curtis 4:35
without a doubt without a doubt. I think you know they're you know, being in the design industry and you would agree that we have the ability to tune into that concept relatively easy to ask. I think so many times it's just kind of a no brainer, but I don't always think that's the case for for the average woman man or you know that that is something that is it just fluffy or for Philly or you know or trendy. are fun to do, but that it's it's actually essential to our well being. You know, and you know, what if we're facing a difficult time, like a trauma in our life, which is what I went through, and my home just became such a sanctuary and a safe place to heal, because I had laid some foundations out, not knowing what I was going to walk through, but man, it made such a difference to have a home that really was pivotal in like my wellness journey, you know, and my daughters as well, we both thoughts
Michelle Lynne 5:26
and back to back battles. Well, that and it doesn't have to be, you know, a super high end luxury multimillion dollar space, your place can nurture you anywhere. So
Ginger Curtis 5:40
my high end luxury, multimillion, it's beautiful. And I have some massive splurges. But I also have some massive, like, you know, thrift find treasures. But yeah, just a little bit of elbow grease, creativity, ingenuity, pausing, to formulate your thoughts, what it is that you're trying to create, what mood you want to evoke What feeling you want your home to represent. And then creating a plan. I think that's the number one thing people will just get. I'm guilty, like, I am such an activator. I'm just ready to jump in and build a ship at sea. And then my husband standing on the shore with like, all the plans in the roadmap, freaking out because I'm not looking at any of it. But really, it's so crucial that we look at it holistically, what is our end goal for our homes right?
Michelle Lynne 6:22
Now, I love that. And I think it's because I'm guilty of it as well. It's like, Oh, I love that, Oh, I love that, Oh, I love that. And then it all comes together. And it doesn't always look polished. But your book does a really good job of explaining the process of design. What inspired you to write it? What inspires you to write Beauty By design, think just
Ginger Curtis 6:40
to awareness, for the just massive impacted need that we have in our lives for the intentionality of beauty. And this was all this book all happened pre COVID. And it launched during COVID. But never like the timing could not have been more perfect, because we've all been in our homes for such a long time and sort of realizing like wow, and making some connections for the first time that that there's some things that can be done and improved and really enhance the quality of your life. And so if Satya to me, in my heart, it is an absolutely worthy message. It's a message that I feel like needs to resonate with us at every level so that we give ourselves permission to lean into beauty.
Michelle Lynne 7:22
And how perhaps that curiosity how long did it take you to write? Two years, two years? A lot of blood, sweat and tears. Hmm.
Ginger Curtis 7:30
I mean, I've faced some challenges in my life I really have and writing the book was one of the hardest things I have ever done. It forced me to look at some things and to face some things and explain things. And one of the challenges was, it's just in me, I breathe it, I walk it I sleep it like the things that are in Me are so natural to me, and then to pause, and to say what like take it out of my brain and put it on this pretty platter and like dish it up in a way that's understandable and well communicated like Wow, holy mackerel, that was a challenge that I underestimated and, you know, pulled it off successfully. But then it was fraught with the late nights, tears, triumphs. I mean, everything is, you know, mixed into that book.
Michelle Lynne 8:15
That makes so much sense because, well, if y'all don't follow ginger on the Instagram, you need to because what she just said, she's so very humble. It is completely inside you. But everything you touch is stunning. Like, I was watching one of your stories, I don't know when it was but I'm about to redo my kitchen and my pantry and all of that sort of jazz and I was like, oh, gingers pantry, I got a peek into it. And it was so pretty. I can imagine that. You know, so many, so many people in our audience just naturally bring beauty to the space. But you also bring such beauty from inside. Like, just I don't I we've met in person one time, and I just felt this level of connection to you. Because we were talking about you had started your business because the Lord had led you to and I was like, Oh my gosh, the Lord led me to adopt my child. And it's just like when you get those messages, you just you just can't not do it. You know, and here I am 50 something years old with a toddler. You know, it's like I didn't think I could do this and holy cow. She's like threenager but everything you do just comes from the heart and your book feels like it as well. So thank
Ginger Curtis 9:34
you, that's a huge compliment and and I think that if life is worthy of living, which it is, we should live it so intentionally and life is just incredibly precious. And it's short, you know, and, and I don't I don't want to waste any moments in my life and even if it's even it's as simple as a beautiful pantry. I'm sorry, but I want to open the doors of my pantry and I want to smile is that okay? Can I just Smile open is okay. And life is so short.
And, you know, I want my kids to be able to walk in their rooms, and it just inspires their little imaginations. And I want I want that for other people to I want them to have this awareness that it's okay. And it's actually, it's actually quite impactful. And I know that because I live it breathe it every day. And I really work hard to not take that for granted. Because it, I could because some of these things come come naturally to me. But man, I really tried to slow down. And, you know, look at what God has given me what I've been blessed with my calling in life, and my ability to to be a leader and to help assure this into the homes of other people. And I think it absolutely has to come from the heart like I'm not interested. I'm not interested if it doesn't, you know? Yeah,
Michelle Lynne 10:51
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Ginger Curtis 12:02
I think, you know, it really goes back to the opening line that you read it, it's like you are worthy. You are so worthy. And the book is such a field guide full of tools and inspiration. And in overcoming challenges. And I think that if you can read that book and feel inspired, and and feel confident, well, gosh, that is a that is a huge, that is a huge, huge win. And and I really hope that you do you
Michelle Lynne 12:27
I love that. And I think that no matter what your style is, because ginger has a very specific style urban ology is just something off the charts beautiful. But even if you are like Uber modern, or super traditional, or if you don't have a style, I think you're right, it is a field guide. And it's very helpful. Or heck, even if you're a blossoming interior designer, like go learn from one of the best and get the book and just soak up the information. And no, I don't get any kickbacks for encouraging you buy the book, but it's just really that good. And for those of you who know me and follow me, you know, I just not one to just send smoke up somebody's booty. It's just a beautiful, beautiful book. And I think that a lot of people will really appreciate it. Because honestly, when I bought it, I thought it was just going to be full of pretty pictures, like so many other coffee table books, and this is what this is, and this is what this is. And then you opened it. And it was from the we keep saying it. But it was from the heart. And there's your personal story in it, which has, you know, nobody has a perfect, nobody has a perfect background. Like we've all gone through shit. And sometimes it sucks and you come out from the other side and you're stronger. You have to learn where the lesson comes from and turn around and nothing happens to you. It happens for you. And I think that you've done a really nice job, you know, opening your struggles to your audience, and bringing people to understand that it's not all the highlight reels that so many people show on on the gram, or just in general like worth it. Yeah,
Ginger Curtis 14:02
it's so it's so, so beautiful that you said that it actually means a tremendous amount to me, I have this insatiable need this insatiable desire for authenticity, and I need to give it and I want to receive it. And my goal is that the more that I give it, and the more that I put myself out there and I share the hots and I share the lows and the vulnerability of my life. And I've faced these massive, horrific challenges, and the waves of life have pounded. But but walking out of those circumstances and understanding some really valuable Truth has changed my life for forever. You know, I feel like this girl, this woman, you know, at this rough, pebbly stone, and the ways of life have come in it's just been just hurled and tossed to and fro, but with every passing wave and with every crashing storm, that rough and rugged jagged stone has just been smoothed and edges have been refined. And it doesn't mean I have a magic bullet but it means that It's given me wisdom and grace and fortitude and strength and perspective for life to approach challenges in a way that instead just like, drains my batteries and sucks the life out of me, it's actually very life giving, because I can draw from the situations in those those past storms, you know, and my, my hope is one day that I will be smooth like a beautiful skipping stone, and I will just glide across those waters. And again, it's, I'm not going to cease facing challenges. I have a million children for crying out loud, I'm pretty sure I'm going to face challenges in my life. Right? Yes, but But it's my perspective, right? It's the problem is never the problem itself. It's always a response to the problem. And that is, that is something that's been just really freeing and powerful for me to learn over the years. Well, I
Michelle Lynne 15:52
think that it is such a great lesson for everybody to understand is that we all have problems. And it's going to depend on like you said, How do you respond to them, because life without problems would be pretty boring, because it would just be flat. And you have to go through the valleys in order to really appreciate the views from the peaks. And I think you had said something earlier is that life is too short. And we've recently had a family member who passed unexpectedly. And it just reminds you to tell everybody that you love them, to really appreciate them, and to really just savor the moment, wherever you are. And like your book, it's by design. And I think that your life is by design, but beauty is very intentional. And it could be your outlook, it could be your room, it could be your outfit, or whatever the case may be, God is the author, and you are the one who translates it,
Ginger Curtis 16:49
it will that is actually something very, very powerful statement that you just said, because, you know, if we are created in the image of God, and He is the author and the protector of beauty and creativity, what does that mean for us? Well, for created in His image, we have a natural longing, desire, pull and need to seek after that, to enjoy that for our lives to you know, to invoke that feeling for ourselves. And for others, it's powerful, but we don't always look at it from that perspective. Because
Michelle Lynne 17:20
we're, we're stuck in the mire of it, whether it's business, or children or health issues or things along that line. So I think that this book will bring an inspiration to so many people. And they'll also get to know you a little bit a little bit differently than just from social media and so forth. Because that is amazing. Like, I don't know how you keep up with social media, you're, you're out your own stories so often, and everybody gets to know you. It's just, it's lovely. But I think that it does feed into other people. So from an outside person looking in, I can tell you, ginger, that what you do matters. It's just, it's lovely to watch. So, congratulations, the success of your book, and everything is just so well deserved. saying so.
Ginger Curtis 18:04
What a genuine heartfelt compliment, like you just made my day. That's incredibly generous. Thank you so much.
Michelle Lynne 18:10
Oh my gosh, absolutely. Absolutely. If we were if we were a little closer, I'd just reach up and give you a big ol hug right now. So well then let's, let's talk a little bit about how did urban ology How did it start? And how is it grown? And what are some of the lessons that you've brought as that entrepreneur? Yeah, well,
Ginger Curtis 18:31
it's one of my favorite stories, because it's very unlikely path that that I took to design. It all started one night at Life Group, my husband and I lead a family group on Tuesday nights and I was just finishing chemo, my hair was just barely starting to grow back. I was just in the phase of getting a little bit like new levels of energy. I was super excited. I was really ready to tackle the world. My husband was just cautioning me at every moment like ginger. He said, You will start something just for the sake of starting something. He goes, just hold on a minute and wait and let the Lord speak to you. And he's a wise man. He's such a wise man. He's an adult. And he was exactly right. And that night at Life Group, we were going around and we were sharing an icebreaker if you could do anything and you know, everybody went around, it was ballerina, racecar driver astronaut, like all the dreams of of our childhood. And it really had just shocked me in that moment that I had really never actually asked myself that question and I just struggled with that. I was like, Why am I a grown up girl and I have never asked myself that question. And it just wasn't the season like I just wasn't a lot of seasons of battling and surviving a lot of things. But I was now coming into this new season. And for the first time I spoke I said I would I would design and I wouldn't just design but I would have this team of the most amazing incredible talented women I would do this this this and I just blurted it out into existence in specific detail. Less than a year later. I was running an interior design firm called Urban ology designs and I hired three people and I you know, had an expediter and interior design And we've just grown. That's the baby nutshell version. My husband comes home from work one day and he says, Oh, hey, babe, would you do today? And I said, I started an LLC. And he said, and, you know, so during that season, I really struggled feeling super unqualified, I had never run a business to that level. I just I felt like a little girl walking around, and her mommy stiletto was like, just wobbling and plush turkey. Just just very insecure. And I'll never forget,
Michelle Lynne 20:34
I want to pause right there. Because I talked to so many interior designers that I want to say to the audience, listen, you're not the only person who ever feels like an imposter. Like ginger just said that she felt like a kid running around in her mom's shake those IDs. I feel like an impostor often. It's just thank you for sharing that. Because I think that there's so many people who think that we've got our services altogether.
Ginger Curtis 20:58
Yeah, I felt incredibly unqualified. And I just remember thinking, What are you doing? You're not even qualified, like, Who are you fooling? And I'll never forget this just I just felt this like, like this impression on my heart from the Lord. And he said, ginger, what if I've qualified you, and I'm just drop the mic. It's like, I just that was enough. For me. It was it didn't take away my fears. It didn't take away the nausea freaking out when hard times hit because they definitely did. And I had to learn a lot of lessons the hard way. When I felt super alone, I my number one prayer for those first few years, I was like, God, bring me one friend, bring me one person who understands this world, this this crazy. I mean, interior design is just there's so many amazing, beautiful and difficult facets, and then you're running a business on top of that. And so in the heat, he did that, he brought me lots of incredible friends and an amazing community, the design community is incredible. But I struggled. And it was, I felt like he told me that in confidence, I treasured that in my little heart. And in any I felt like, there was another word that came to me and it was that no good thing will come out of your comfort zone. And I just thought, well, who thinks I've been in my comfort zone for any time of by me. And he just, I just felt like this strong impression that I was capable of so much more, and that I had set the bar of my life low, because I wasn't willing to fail at anything that I attempted. And so I set the bar, look, maybe I'm like an overachiever to the world or everybody else looking in. But between me and him, he knew, he knew that I was capable of more and it was like, it's time, it's time to move, it's time to get uncomfortable. And that scared the EverLiving tar out of me, but and it was true, it was very uncomfortable. It still is
Michelle Lynne 22:46
that I understand. It's like raise your standards. Like you get to a certain spot and you get comfortable. And you have to raise your standards, I had sent something to my favorite bonus send the other day. And a friend of mine says we don't want to abandon our identities. So we abandon our futures instead. And I think that when we have that identity of who we are and what we can accomplish, we stay there because it's comfortable. And you abandon the future that you have pushed through and continue to create for yourself. Because you've got out of that space that we limit ourselves to.
Ginger Curtis 23:20
in so much of it all comes back to fear. And and this is probably one of the most powerful nuggets of my story. And my testimony is something I'm really passionate about sharing is because I think so many people don't take that first step or the next step. And sometimes the next step feels like the first step. And it's really scary. And I've been there and I continue to be there. I didn't make that decision once and it was like Okay, good. Like, it's all gonna, you know, I mean, I've made that one hard decision, it continues to happen. And and that's okay, because it forces us to grow and we become better. I'm gonna tell you what, way back when I first decided, I first started my design firm. I found this print on Etsy, and it was a quote, and it said, Oh, but what if I fall? And then underneath it, it said, Oh, but my darling, what if you fly? I went to Staples, and I printed that quote, as big Is there a machine would print it and I've put it in just some like random frame and I literally like put it by my bedside, what was it to scale? It looks horrible. It was just but I literally needed to be reminded every single day that there was the possibility of of succeeding and not falling flat on my face getting back up after I fell flat on my face. You know, and, and I think we just we need to share that because that vulnerability and that truth, that fear is real, and it's stifling, and it can stop us dead in our tracks is real. And if we talk about it, we can overcome together, I think
Michelle Lynne 24:47
talk about and give ourselves permission. Because we're so hard on ourselves, like perfection is just perception. So get over it and do it Done is better than perfect sometimes, and then you can go back and you can adjust it, you go back and you can tweak it, you can say okay, actually, that one millimeter difference is not as big of a deal as I thought it was. So I think it is so true. And one it's funny that you had that quote, because I have a favorite poem. And it's like, I can't be arm I think is who it's from. And it's like, come to the edge. No, we can't come to the edge. No, we can't come to the edge. No, we can't come to the edge. Well, what if I fall? And then it's like, come to the edge. What if you fly? And it's just like that tension back and forth. And I think that's like our voice in our head. So and I think having the balls to say that gives other women the ability to accept that they don't have to be perfect. And I think that's just such a key message is that
Ginger Curtis 25:51
please don't be perfect because you never can be you never will be imperfection is totally boring. Anyway. I think like the massive creativity lies in the unemployed effect and embracing the uniqueness of who we are of our abilities or skills, what we can offer. I think perfectionism is legalism, and it absolutely squelches creativity. And so that's a that's another little note that I get all excited about is you know, breaking away from perfectionism. That's where real growth lies. Yes,
Michelle Lynne 26:19
taking imperfect but massive action.
Ginger Curtis 26:24
imperfect, but massive action, massive action. I like that a lot. Yeah, it sounds like a lot of fun.
Michelle Lynne 26:31
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Ginger Curtis 27:41
Tea.
Michelle Lynne 27:42
How many siblings do you have?
Ginger Curtis 27:44
Six. Holy
Michelle Lynne 27:46
moly.
Ginger Curtis 27:48
favorite flavor? Cookies and cream?
Michelle Lynne 27:52
Beach mountains. Oh, that sounds good. When was the last time that you laughed so hard? You almost peed yourself
Ginger Curtis 28:05
probably when I snuck up on my eight year old son doing the dishes and scared that ever bejesus out of him and I just, I am either mean or wrong, but I laughed so hard. Okay, tears in my eyes.
Michelle Lynne 28:19
That's always fun. What is your favorite book?
Ginger Curtis 28:24
My favorite book? Well, gosh, that's, that's like, can we narrow it down to a category? Because no, I'm just kidding. I'm just gonna go the Business Route here. I think the Bible is my favorite book. Hands down. If I was trading in desert island, I would want my Bible for sure. But from a practical business standpoint, there's an amazing book called Rocket fuel and it like actually changed my life. So that's super good
Michelle Lynne 28:47
one. There we go. So when you guys get on Amazon to order Beauty By design, you should also get rocket fuel. And if you don't have it, read the Bible. Because that is your rocket fuel. That is your rocket. In fact, going a little bit off subject. I just started reading from a referral. Anyway, the Bible in chronological order. And oh, yeah, holy, what a different perspective. Yeah, because I had no idea some of the ins and outs of it. So it's been very interesting. Okay, back to rapid fire. When was the last time you took a nap?
Ginger Curtis 29:21
Well, I just had surgery, I'm recovering. I had a double mastectomy years ago from cancer. And then just it's just been years of sort of complications from that. So I finally faced up and did the brave thing. And I went back and had surgery to fix it. It's a whole story, you guys, but it's been like a massive challenge for me. So I'm super proud that I've done it. But to answer your question yesterday, because I've been in bed quite a bit recovering. Oh, my goodness. Well, thank
Michelle Lynne 29:48
you for being here. I didn't really come out with surgery. Good. Good, good. Good. So I'm excited to hear that you made that leap. And I did. I
Ginger Curtis 29:57
did. It is just a really unusual I wouldn't say unusual but You know, when you when you face a mastectomy and you go through reconstruction, it's very different than breast augmentation. And there can be complications. And it pretty much had every complication that could exist. And it was just I kept telling myself, it wasn't important. And so for seven years, eight years, I just, I just hid from myself in the reality of something that was really like emotionally and physically scarring. And I face up to it. And I did the hard thing. So it's actually like a big, huge, kind of like little feat for me in my life right now. So that's exciting. Yeah.
Michelle Lynne 30:31
I'm glad that you did something good for yourself.
Ginger Curtis 30:34
Thank you, um, so easy. For everybody else. Yeah, me too.
Michelle Lynne 30:38
I think a good example for the family kids. Yeah, that's a whole different perspective when you have to have other people watching what you're doing. Okay, so if you could have one superpower, what would it be?
Ginger Curtis 30:49
Ah, I definitely wouldn't want to be able to read people's minds. That's like too much. I would just fall over all the time. You know, I've had to go back to being a little girl. And there was always one superpower above the rest that I could always I would literally envision myself doing it and it was flying. Like I would just fly into the clouds fly across telephone poles. And
Michelle Lynne 31:13
that would be fun. That would be super fun. What's your favorite color? Green. Last movie you watched last
Ginger Curtis 31:21
movie Diary of a Wimpy Kid with my kids. And my husband last night? Oh, fun. They made they made a movie. Yeah. That's a book, right? Yes. Yes. My kids love that series. And so they made a movie. And we watched it. And
Michelle Lynne 31:39
yep, that's what one read. Right? Sure. And if you could have dinner with anybody who's one person that you would invite? Well,
Ginger Curtis 31:51
I would have dinner with my sister Laura. She's not here. She, she, she passed away years ago and left behind a six year old little boy who is now my oldest son, I adopted him when he was six, he's about to be 22. And to have a conversation with her to sit down with her would just be a dream. So she's my sister, Laura.
Michelle Lynne 32:13
I love that. I absolutely love that. Such a sweetheart. And ginger, thank you so much for being here. I mean, this has been such a lovely conversation. Just everything about your book is phenomenal. Bourbon ology has just been such a blessing to so many people, and you continue to do it with these pages. So how can our audience connect with you? Well, you
Ginger Curtis 32:37
did such a great job earlier, you need to be on my payroll for promotion for Instagram. I love it. I really didn't start off that way. I started off like a lot of, you know, entrepreneurs kicking and screaming and, you know, and then oh, what are the stories that I have to do and man, I just really struggled. And now I love it. I love to share on Instagram. And so it's just a great snapshot of our brand. And behind the scenes and just my little wild wild west of a world. So yeah, urban ology designs on Instagram, and in our website is a great place to connect in both places, you can get information about beauty by design, my new book. So do you have a link on your website to buy the book? Yes, on the homepage, I believe there is a link you can you can go right there. And it's available on Amazon. So yep.
Michelle Lynne 33:22
And also, I'm going to do a shameless plug. Ginger will be at the interior design business success summit in November. And ginger, I don't think I've mentioned this to you, but I'm gonna buy books for everybody as a gift. So you'll get to do a little book signing and so forth. And we'll connect with some more detail. But yeah, everybody who's there? If you're listening, the surprise is ruined. But so maybe you guys check that out. And also, for those of you who can benefit from more resources surrounding the business of running your interior design business, join my growing community on Facebook private group. It's called the interior design business, interior designers business Launchpad. And don't forget to leave a review anywhere you're catching this podcast. So thank you again, ginger, it has been such a pleasure. Well, it's
Ginger Curtis 34:14
an honor to be invited. Thank you so much.
Michelle Lynne 34:18
Hey, y'all. If you love the show and find it useful, I would really appreciate it if you would share with your friends and followers. And if you like what you're hearing, want to put a face with a name and get even more business advice. Then join me in my Facebook group, the interior designers business launch pad. Yeah, I know it's Facebook, but just come on in for the training and then leave without scrolling your feet. It's fun. I promise you'll enjoy it. And finally, I hear it's good for business to get ratings on your podcast. So please drop yours on whatever platform you use to listen to this. We're all about community over competition. So let's work on elevating our industry, one designer at a time. I'll see you next time
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