Michelle Lynne 0:02
Welcome to design for the creative mind, a podcast for interior designers and creative entrepreneurs to run their business with purpose, efficiency and passion. Because, well, every design is different, the process should remain the same. Prepare yourself for some good conversations with amazing guests, a dash of Jesus and a touch of the woowoo. And probably a swear word or two. If you're ready to stop trading your time for money, and enjoy your interior design business. You are in the right place. I'm your host, Michelle Lynn.
Hello, hello. Hello, everybody. I'm so glad you're here and welcome back. If you have been listening along with our episodes, or if you're new here, welcome. I'm so excited that you're here because I want to introduce you to a badass entrepreneur by the name of CRS Stockland Stockland.
Ciara Stockeland 1:06
II, my kids swim and every time they get their names are announced. It's just talked
Michelle Lynne 1:12
about it. So it's CR Stockland. She's a serial entrepreneur and a Profit First certified coach. I don't know if I've talked about profit first on the podcast, but I'm a big believer in it. So I was excited to see that about you, Sarah. And through her coaching program called the boutique workshop. CRO strives to motivate boutique owners to dream big and build simply. And before you wonder what the hell we're talking about boutiques on an interior design podcast has to do with you. Stick around because there are some amazing nuggets that are going to come up in this conversation. So Sarah, welcome. Hey, I'm
Ciara Stockeland 1:49
so excited to be here. You're gonna be fun to visit with I can already
Michelle Lynne 1:54
have a great life is too short to be boring and stuffy. So it's right. I'll apologize in advance because I might I joke that I love Jesus, but I swear a little bit. Okay, it's all good. Morning. So siara, I loved reading your bio, and we're not going to go down that bunny trail, I encourage everybody to visit the show notes and take a look at CRS background. And you might even get some additional insight into our conversation today. But tell us a little bit about your boutique workshop. Let's just start with that.
Ciara Stockeland 2:31
Okay, I love it. It is so much fun to work with boutique owners. So my main focus is to work with inventory based businesses, most of them happen to be boutique owners, because that's a lot of my background
Michelle Lynne 2:43
would also be applicable to any interior designer who owns a retail shop.
Ciara Stockeland 2:48
Yes, any type of inventory. If you have inventory, if you're selling, I would say if you're exchanging things for dollars, I can help you.
Michelle Lynne 2:55
So yeah, there might be a bunny trail. Oh, good. I know. So
Ciara Stockeland 3:00
in the boutique workshop, it's a group coaching program. My goal with it was to make it the most phenomenal group coaching program you could ever find, because a lot of times they kind of get a bad rap, right. But it's just a great program, we take one topic, I break it down into bite sized actionable steps every month, we work on it together, you're good to go, we move on to the next topic. So it's a pretty neat program for inventory based businesses. What led
Michelle Lynne 3:23
you to be just starting this program? Wow.
Ciara Stockeland 3:27
So um, okay, so I had my retail store, which we can talk about at some point if you want the big story. And then I decided my next venture was going to be to build a subscription box for boutique owners a wholesale subscription box, and I wanted to build it and sell it. That was the goal. So I did that in about 18 months. And through that process started meeting boutique owners all over the country that kept asking me questions, and I kept giving them answers. And then I thought maybe I should charge for these answers. And so I was pretty hesitant about just connecting with boutique owners because of the tunnel that I had just come through the story I just come through, but God just kept pushing me towards really amazing women. And so I created a little beta group coaching program. And then I did some one on one coaching. And then when COVID hit in February, or when it was, you know, around the corner, February, March, I built a social selling challenge because all my clients had to suddenly close their doors and sell online and a lot of them had no idea how. So I did a seven day social selling challenge. And I was like, oh my goodness, when I give a bite sized actionable step one day at a time, look at the results. And from that was born then the boutique workshop. Oh, I love
Michelle Lynne 4:42
that. And it's interesting that you and I have a similar path in regards to you get to a certain level of success and you want to help into others. And they're asking you questions and you're like, I could probably get paid for this. And it becomes a whole new adventure.
Ciara Stockeland 4:57
It does. Yeah, and I know I would have paid for that information, you know, oh my
Michelle Lynne 5:02
gosh, it just rockets your success. So yes, exponentially? Yes, for sure. Yeah, that's what for. For my interior design business bakery, it was the same thing I promised myself as soon as I had it figured out, I was going to do my best to lift other women. So they don't have to go through that heartburn. Yes.
Ciara Stockeland 5:19
Why do you need to make all the mistakes if someone can help direct you around? Yes,
Michelle Lynne 5:24
exactly. I would have paid big bucks. Yeah. So with that, what is the number one reason that you feel in your experience that entrepreneurs fall short of their goals.
Ciara Stockeland 5:35
So they don't know their numbers, they don't know their numbers. Numbers are scary. So I would assume in your line of work, same thing with me like we're working with creative people, I'm creative. I'm not a bookkeeper. I'm not an accountant, like no way I want to merchandise I want to sell the people do all the fun things. And so a lot of times, you know, inventory based businesses, they get into it, because they love the product, and they love selling the product. But they don't understand the puzzle piece of the numbers. And they're either intimidated, they feel silly or dumb to ask questions, or they just have no interest. And so they miss out on profitability and opportunity. And so if I can just help them understand numbers in a really fun, easy, simple way. You don't have to love you know, using a calculator. But it's pretty cool when you know that this will do this. And that will make that decision, you know, all the worthwhile. And that's what we do.
Michelle Lynne 6:27
I love that. So, so you take your Profit First certified coach, and apply that specifically to boutique owners. Yeah.
Ciara Stockeland 6:38
So when I started, I really started working on like in the boutique workshop, building out a buying budget, how do you know what type of inventory and how much to purchase? Just building a simple budget making projections, setting goals, I couldn't believe so many entrepreneurs have no idea how to set a goal, or they're really intimidated, or they feel fraudulent setting a goal. They like, I guess cuz I mean, I don't know what I'm like, who cares? It's a guessing game goals are guessing games with education behind them, you know, so we started with that. And then when Prophet first came along, as an option, I thought this will just melt so nicely with what I'm doing anyway. And so that's just part of what we work on to is the profit first system.
Michelle Lynne 7:18
I think that's fabulous. Because I agree, like for the longest time, in my own, it's funny, I could set goals for the jobs, the jobs that I had before I owned my own business, but coming into this business, I did it. You nailed it. I felt like a fraud. And then it was like, Well, I don't know how to set them. But yeah, seriously, it's not like you're gonna get fired if you don't know. So it's like, like you said, you make it up. It's the same thing like with an ideal client profile. Who do you market? Right? Well, this is a fictional avatar, your goal is a goal. Yeah. And it's one of the things that we talked about is shoot for the moon, because if you don't get there, you're still gonna hit some stars, right?
Ciara Stockeland 7:58
Absolutely. And you learn so much about your business and yourself along the way. You have a direction.
Michelle Lynne 8:05
Yes, you you, you know where you want to go. And you have to begin with the end in mind. Yeah, but dealing with creatives. I think that's the last thing that anybody wants to address,
Ciara Stockeland 8:16
right? Where we want to live here. And now because it's comfortable.
Michelle Lynne 8:19
And all the fluffy pretty stuff. Yes. Who wants to think about money? Well, hello, we're not at a charity. You know, we're not doing the work for free. Hope. So when you when you were in your business? Did you have a business mentor?
Ciara Stockeland 8:35
So I am pretty unique in that I've always had mentors, but I sought them out. I love visiting with people that are smarter than me. And I love asking questions. I think that's a probably a superpower that I have to just be very inquisitive and ask questions. So before I even opened my store, I sought out a guy who'd been super successful at our church, he'd been super successful in retail, Will you have coffee with me? Can I ask you some questions? So I've always been doing that and being really purposeful with mentors. That's something that I think entrepreneurs don't know how to do either. Like we hear that we need a mentor, but like, what does that mean? And how do I find one? But if you're really purposeful in finding the right people being intentional with your time and your questions, oh, my goodness, it's valuable.
Michelle Lynne 9:19
So is there an I love that because I've admittedly never sought it out per se. I did have somebody who kind of confirmed that what I was doing was on the right track and helped me elevate a little bit, but it was after a lot of struggle. How how would you suggest people go about finding a mentor? Like how would I go about finding a mentor? Because I've not intentionally done it shame on me. Yeah.
Ciara Stockeland 9:45
So I always look like in this fear the industry around me for an example when I was in franchising. We went to the big International Franchise Association, I went to a panel conversation sat in the group loved one of the gals on the panel or I was like, she's I love her style. I love what she's talking about. I wonder if I could ask her some questions. So afterwards I went up gave her my business card. Hey, I have two or three questions to ask you, can I have a half an hour of your time? I'll be really respectful of your time. Absolutely. So we booked a call. And now she's in my pocket of, you know, my rolodex of mentors. So I think just looking for someone in your industry, or a small business owner, where you love their style, you love what they've done. They're like two or three or four steps ahead of you. And then just asking them, and letting them know that you're going to be real, that's really important to let them know, I'm going to respect your time. I'm not going to be that needy person and needy person, because we all get those calls.
Michelle Lynne 10:39
Can I pick your brain? Yes. But I think that you nailed it. Because if somebody called and said, I will be respectful of your time. Yeah, I would be much more apt to grant them that access. salutely. Yeah, because they're being put on Channel. They're being intentional. And on the other hand, if they say no to you, like if I went to somebody and they said no, well, then they weren't, they weren't meant for me anyway. Exactly. Yeah, because they don't have that same that same vibe. Let me interrupt myself to take a quick moment to thank satin off Insurance Agency for sponsoring this episode of The designed for the creative mind podcast, their support and understanding of the interior design, decorating and home staging industries is unrivaled. Satin off understands what our businesses do, and they provide insurance that lets me sleep at night. Yep, this is the firm that I use. And they will do the same for your sleep habits. And your business too. They're more than an insurance agency, they are an extension of my business. They take care of the worry, because they are the experts, which allows me and my team breathing room to do what we do best designed beautiful spaces. You can find their contact information below in the show notes. Give him a call today. Okay, so from a mentorship standpoint, it doesn't have to be an ongoing relationship per se, it could just be a 30 minute conversation.
Ciara Stockeland 12:01
Yeah. And different different mentors in my life have a different place. So I have a mentor from score who has been with me since I opened my doors. He's now a friend, I can call him and like we're friends now. Yeah, that's much different than the guy was telling you about where I bet I connect with her once or twice a year maybe. And it's when I have a very specific question. And I'll come to her and literally, it's like 30 minutes. And then I have some of those mentors, where it's like, Hey, I have a business question, or how does this inner business life intersect, and it's more of a fluid conversation. So I think being really acute to what's happening socially with that person, that not everybody has to fit into this box, either. For an example, in franchising, too, I wanted to connect with someone from McDonald's. It was like a goal. So I reached out, I ended up connecting with the VP of international franchising for McDonald's. So this guy was like way, way, smart man. And we met twice, and it was very, you know, boxed in very stoic, very structured. So he's not an ongoing mentor, and nothing in my life would really apply. But that didn't mean that I couldn't ask him questions in that season. So
Michelle Lynne 13:09
I love that because I've always thought that to be a mentor to have a mentor, it was that ongoing accessibility. But you've redefined it for me, and probably a lot of the listeners. Yeah.
Ciara Stockeland 13:20
You're basically just asking questions of really genius people.
Michelle Lynne 13:24
Yeah, there you go. And there's a lot of people smarter than me. So I've cut all the people I could ask. You had mentioned score, and I'm familiar with them. Can you tell the audience a little bit about the organization and the program? Because I think that there are probably people across the country listening that could benefit from it. Yes.
Ciara Stockeland 13:44
Okay. So score is has made such an impact in my small business journey. I started with them. I don't know over a decade ago, in our small community, the score volunteers didn't fit. And this is something else too. As a business owner, you need to be your own advocate. So just because you want to work with score, and here's the volunteers in your area doesn't mean that you have to work with them or say yes to that. So in our community, it's a farming community. The volunteers just weren't really a good fit. But I had connected with another boutique owner and she said, Hey, I have a score mentor that's out in California. He's been in retail his whole life. Maybe he'll take you on as a client. And so that's my score mentor. So I'm in North Dakota, he's in California. We've stayed connected and he's helped me so much. So it's just a volunteer organization. It's all free mentorship coaching. They do they help you with business plan. I mean, really anything business plans, answer questions. It's in the volunteers or to their retired business men and women. So these are people who have walked the walk and talk the talk. Yes. And so just ask for someone in your industry. If your interior design tell them you want or if you're really focusing on marketing. Do you have someone that specializes in marketing in this chapter, or could you refer me to someone in another chapter? I
Michelle Lynne 15:00
think that's fantastic. And I didn't know that you could hop state lines either. Yeah.
Ciara Stockeland 15:03
Whatever you want in life.
Michelle Lynne 15:05
Amen did ask for permission, forgiveness instead of permission. That's right. That is very cool. So with the experience that you've had, and all of the accomplishments and doors, you kind of kicked open for yourself, what do you what would you tell your younger self? Like I was actually talking to? I was my father in law. We were talking a couple of weeks ago when we were on vacation. And I told him that I had actually gone through and written a letter to my younger self. And what a powerful exercise that had been. Yeah, for sure. So what do you wish you could tell your younger self? Whether it's I wrote
Ciara Stockeland 15:47
a letter to my younger self, I probably start crying. I'm kind of prior Did you know?
Michelle Lynne 15:52
Yeah, so I was sitting there. It was one morning journaling and reading my Bible and drinking coffee and stuff. And it was, it was a powerful exercise, I highly recommend it to anybody who's listening here. And I think the letter I wrote back, then a couple years ago would be different than what I would write now.
Ciara Stockeland 16:09
Yeah. Isn't that interesting? Because we change. And, yeah, I think my biggest thing, I would just say, don't try to please, everybody stop pleasing trying to please people, I did so many things, trying to make the wrong people happy. And it wasn't necessarily, instead of making my like, I don't know if I'd say make yourself happy first, but just stop trying to please people stop doing things for the wrong reasons, just to try to make life comfortable around you. Because unpeople Unhappy people are always going to be unhappy. And the wrong customers are never going to be the right customers. And that would be the biggest thing. That is
Michelle Lynne 16:45
so true. And my I know my audience, the designers that I coach and teach and interact with, we're we're in an industry full of people pleasers. And I think I might also be women to a certain extent, but I will not say it's solely assigned to this gender by any means. Because I know that's not the case. I love I think that that is so true. And once you can embrace being yourself and being okay with it and not having to please everybody, it gives you so much freedom. Right?
Ciara Stockeland 17:15
It does freedom to just say no to say wait to not without cert.
Michelle Lynne 17:22
Yes, yeah. Yeah. But yeah, I wish I could have learned that younger.
Ciara Stockeland 17:28
Yeah, freedom to say like, your problems aren't my problems, just because you don't like this that you sign. That's not my deal. That's your deal, you know? And sounds like oh, what can I do to fix this and make you like me? No.
Michelle Lynne 17:40
Amen. Amen to that. I should have known that in my dating years, too. So earlier, you and I were talking about, like being in business that we screw things up. We fail all the time. But growing through that failure, I think that is such a lesson to be able to learn when I said, Hey, let's not talk about this anymore. Let's wait until we were on on the microphone. Let's let's talk about that. Like what are your thoughts on being an entrepreneur and the the growth through the screw ups through funneling
Ciara Stockeland 18:17
down? Yeah, I love John Maxwell says, I think he has a book. It's called sometimes we win. Sometimes we learn. And I love that it's not we lose, we learn. And so I think looking at that word failure, is you have to have a lot of nose in your life, in order to have a lot of yeses, you have to fall down a lot of times to keep moving forward. And so I had some big what, what the world would define as failure. And what I for a period of time, you know, defined as well, because it's like, well, here's where I wanted to go with the business. And here's where I am. So I didn't succeed, I must have failed. No, this is a different direction. I had a really good friend tell me once, Sierra, and I feel like this is so important to learning that 100% of what happens to you is never all on someone else, you have to take partial responsibility. So with my you know, the franchise company not going the direction I wanted it to go a lot of it wasn't what I did, and it wasn't in my control. But I had to own a part of it. Like there are decisions that I made that brought me to this place. And I can either sit on the couch and keep crying and eating Tums or I can dry my tears, get up and go for a walk, figure out what I can learn out of it, and what I would do differently next time, which is part of the people pleasing. So that's how I look at things when they don't go the way that we want them to go. What part do we need to own in that? And then what do we do with that ownership?
Michelle Lynne 19:48
That is so true. And that is truly just a way of telling a story. You can tell the story where you're the victim and finally but it's True. You know what you participated in walking the path that got you to this destination? Yes. And sometimes I think you get the sometimes you get the results that you want. And other times you get the lessons you need. Yes. And yeah, I think that being able to be resilient is a key factor in entrepreneurship.
Ciara Stockeland 20:24
Absolutely. And that means you just get up again, and you look around you, and what part should I change? What's beyond my control? I'm going to forgive that and move on. Oh,
Michelle Lynne 20:35
I love that you said, Forgive that, because we are the individuals that I have the immense honor to coach and lead. Oftentimes, it's just a matter of reminding them to give themselves the grace that they would give another person, right, we're often so hard on ourselves. Yeah. And I don't know if I've said this on the podcast recently, or if it's just been in some of my coaching. One of the things that was impactful to me, in learning how to give myself grace is my daughter. She's She's three right now. Whenever you're listening to this, she could be 15 I don't know if my podcast can be rather long. But today, she's three. When she was learning how to walk. It's just such a great example. Your daughter is learning how to walk she she walks slow. She walks clumsy, she falls. I didn't ever tell her get up. You done maths. And no, you just fell on your ass. No, it was like, Hey, babe. Great job. Give it a try again. Yes.
Ciara Stockeland 21:37
And you cheer them on, and
Michelle Lynne 21:39
they're so tiny. And why don't? Why did we not talk to ourselves that way? I
Ciara Stockeland 21:46
think we weave in what we think here's a whole nother subject for another day. We weave in what we think people think of us, like we overthink that. So then that comes in like, oh my goodness, they saw me fail. They saw me close. They saw me fall down. They saw me screw this up. What are they going to think of me? And so I'm so disappointed in myself. I'm horrible. I can't you know, and a lot of it's wrapped into that. What? What and people don't think that people don't care. But
Michelle Lynne 22:11
I know. So that's funny, because I was talking to a friend of mine. That um, this was back in the this. This was a while ago when I used to go to the gym. Now I've just got my peloton. You know, I don't have to leave the house. Thank you for that. But anyway, long story short, she would have to get dressed up to go to the gym. And I'm like, girl, why are you getting dressed up to go to the gym? You're just gonna sweat. She was like, well, because I don't know when people see me la la la la la la la. And I was just like, I want you to go in there. And see how many people even pay attention to you. Everybody's paying attention to themselves. Yeah, well, then they're all checking themselves out in the mirror? Well, we do we think people are paying much more attention to us than than they are. Because we're all wrapped up in our own lives and our own stories. Yes, giving consideration to others is not natural. Right? Absolutely. Oh my gosh, girl, I could talk to you for days.
Ciara Stockeland 23:07
I know. Let's just keep talking. You will be like, Oh, my goodness, they need to just stop will they ever shut up?
Michelle Lynne 23:19
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Ciara Stockeland 24:27
Okay, you did not prepare. See if I can.
Michelle Lynne 24:32
This just it's fun. It allows it allows the audience to get to know you just kind of on a different level. Nothing's off the table. Okay, it was we'll start off with with some easy ones. Are you left handed or right handed? Right. You had to stop and think about that. Yeah. That's a trick question. Michelle. This is a trick question.
Ciara Stockeland 24:54
What would you like me to be?
Michelle Lynne 24:58
Now you said like Pretty Woman. Did you ever say oh my goodness, that was classic. She's like, What do you want it to be? That's right. Okay, red or white wine? Or do you drink wine at all? Oh, red,
Ciara Stockeland 25:13
red. I'm a cab girl.
Michelle Lynne 25:15
Oh, cab you're speaking my language. Okay, any belly button or Audi?
Ciara Stockeland 25:21
Any anything about that one to
Michelle Lynne 25:23
ask me that? Yeah, I know. It's it's random, random random. Who's your favorite superhero?
Ciara Stockeland 25:30
Oh, I hate superheroes. I mean, no, I don't. I don't like superheroes. I hate sci fi. I can't stand it. I suppose if I had to pick someone I'd say maybe like spider man or something? Yeah,
Michelle Lynne 25:41
you don't. You don't have to fake it. That's okay. You hate superheroes? Okay, well, let's just hope your city or anything, or never comes walking through your city
Ciara Stockeland 25:52
will be in trouble. Yeah.
Michelle Lynne 25:56
What did you want to be when you were growing up?
Ciara Stockeland 25:58
I didn't know. That's why I struggled. I never finished college because I didn't know what do I want to be. So I just started doing my own thing got into business. What
Michelle Lynne 26:07
about today? What do you want to be when you grow up?
Ciara Stockeland 26:11
I love what I'm doing now. I love it. No lien, no leases, no loans, no inventory, no employees. I just talked to people. It's awesome. That
Michelle Lynne 26:21
is fabulous. Isn't it nice when you just find your lane? And it's like, I know, this is where God wants me to be. Yes.
Ciara Stockeland 26:28
But going back to that, you know, failure thing is how you get to where you want to be and where you should be. It's through all of those pieces. I never would be doing this. If I was doing what I thought I was supposed to be doing that got ripped from my hands. I wouldn't be doing what I'm actually best at and what I love the most.
Michelle Lynne 26:44
Yes, yes, yes, yes. And I think that you also have to listen to your gut when you're not happy and acknowledge that it's okay to be not happy. But you have to have the balls to step up and change it. Yep. Loves I really love that. Okay, um, beach mountains. Oh,
Ciara Stockeland 27:01
my goodness. The beach. I love the ocean. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Michelle Lynne 27:05
We just got back from an oceanfront vacation. And it was so nice. I love rushing. Yeah. dog or cat.
Ciara Stockeland 27:12
Dog. I have a great pair. Nice. Dog. It is lots of for a lot of fun. But he's gorgeous.
Michelle Lynne 27:22
And how old is he?
Ciara Stockeland 27:23
He is four years old.
Michelle Lynne 27:24
Oh, sweet boy. Yeah. Are you an introvert or an extrovert?
Ciara Stockeland 27:30
I'm actually an introvert. Yeah,
Michelle Lynne 27:33
did Oh, yeah. Yo, what's your favorite book? Do you have like, oh,
Ciara Stockeland 27:38
I have love reading. Right now. I'm rereading atomic habits. So I've read that before. I'm reading it again. Oh,
Michelle Lynne 27:44
yes. That's a good one. What genre of music do you listen to? Everything?
Ciara Stockeland 27:49
But when I do my bookkeeping, because I do do my own bookkeeping. I listen to country.
Michelle Lynne 27:54
You do your own bookkeeping. Why do you listen to country when you're live? Do I but I don't know. Happy music?
Ciara Stockeland 28:05
I don't know. So when it's playing in my office, one of my kids or my husband walk by and be like you're doing your books, aren't ya? Like?
Michelle Lynne 28:14
That is so funny. So are you listening to like today's country? Or like current? Yeah, okay. Yep. That's funny. When was the last time you took a nap?
Ciara Stockeland 28:24
Ooh, probably about a month ago. I usually take naps on a Sunday afternoon. But we've been super, like just really enjoying the outdoors because it's nice here. And it's not nice all winter. So it's been a while now. So you're just getting out and yeah, we're just hanging out. Yeah. So I'm sitting on the porch is my wine and a book and that's my nap. That doesn't suck.
Michelle Lynne 28:46
I'm waiting till my daughter gets old enough that I could do the same.
Ciara Stockeland 28:48
Oh, I love it. My kids are teenagers independent. It's great. Yeah,
Michelle Lynne 28:52
I've got a ways to go. Yeah. When was the last time you laughed until you almost peed yourself?
Ciara Stockeland 28:58
Oh, probably like yesterday. I laugh a lot. Yeah,
Michelle Lynne 29:04
I laugh a lot. That is awesome. I think that that is so important. Just laughter is medicine for the soul. It is. Yeah. And you have been such a delight to visit with we so we met through Nicolette who was on the podcast. Yeah, who has done a lot of my a lot of work for me. And she didn't
Ciara Stockeland 29:23
work for me. Yeah, so that's why it's all over. You. And I listened to the podcast and like, I need to talk to you.
Michelle Lynne 29:29
I know. I love this. It's so amazing. Just the way the world is so interconnected now, but it also goes back to a lot of what I teach is like Your vibe attracts your tribe. Yes. And having spoken to him like oh, yeah, this is this is a no brainer. Yep. Even if I didn't pronounce your last name properly.
Ciara Stockeland 29:47
Oh, that's okay. At least you didn't call me Clara. Call me Clara. So they don't need a little dot. Yeah.
Michelle Lynne 29:55
I did learn how to read when I was younger. Okay. So thank you. You so much Claire. I mean, siara Just kidding. For being on the show, it's, I know our audience has loved so much of what you've shared. And it's so applicable as entrepreneurs, whether you own a boutique, or you own an interior design firm, or you own a boutique and run an interior design firm from it. There's so much crossover when it comes to entrepreneurship in general, will you let our audience know how they can connect with you?
Ciara Stockeland 30:25
Yeah, the best way would probably be to either go to my my two websites, either the boutique workshop.com, or CRS stockland.com. And you'll find me there.
Michelle Lynne 30:35
And I will make sure all of that information is in the show notes. So you Okay, so the audience can find it. Perfect. Oh, for those of you who can benefit from even more resources surrounding the business of running your interior design business, join the growing community on my Facebook's private group. It's called the interior design business launch pad, and stop and say hello. And also, if you're enjoying this podcast, please don't hesitate to stop and leave a review. It really does help keep us relevant in the Search Search option. So until next time, we'll see you soon. Hey, y'all. If you love the show and find it useful, I would really appreciate it if you would share with your friends and followers. And if you like what you're hearing, want to put a face with a name and get even more business advice. Then join me in my Facebook group, the interior designers business launch pack. Yeah, I know it's Facebook, but just come on in for the training and then leave without scrolling your feet. It's fun. I promise you'll enjoy it. And finally, I hear it's good for business to get ratings on your podcast. So please drop yours on whatever platform you use to listen to this. We're all about community over competition. So let's work on elevating our industry, one designer at a time. See you next time.
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